either a lesson in critical thinking or a rant against anti-theism. Typically
I check the source before I read something, this time I did not. It is a
happy accident though, because the article has become popular in theistic
circles, so I feel as if I must address it as a reference to not only atheists,
but also skeptically minded theists. “Five Ways…” is written by a theist
in judgement of atheists. Imagine if an Atheist wrote such an absurd list
as “5 Ways to be a Better Christian.” I can almost hear the theistic outrage
suffering.” He is writing his article to theists and is only pandering to their
emotions. By claiming that Atheism is suffering, Patton is trying to
allay theist fears that they are losing some sort of battle for the souls of
man. Furthermore, he claims that New Atheism is evangelical in its
nature. Not quite. In all fairness, some New Atheists have used the
word evangelical – trying to spread the word as it were – but most New Atheists
would say they are activists, not evangelicals. Why the
distinction? Most New Atheists (that is all except for the extremists –
all movements have their crackpots) couldn’t care less what you believe, so
long as you do not force others to those beliefs. If you want to believe
that that a certain day of the week is special, fine, good for you. But
do not force businesses to close down that day. If you want to believe
that the universe was created in 6 days, fine, good for you. But, until
you can prove it though verifiable and measurable means, do not insist that it
is taught as science in schools.
must make more concessions.
claims. The first is that there is no evidence for god. Well, there
isn’t, and no a religion’s sacred texts do not count. To claim that a
certain sacred text is exclusively accurate without allowing the claims in the
text to be scrutinized is the fallacy of special pleading. This is true
for not only material claims (the age of the earth, resurrection etc. but also
for moral and historical claims. A case in point is that there is debate
among historians as to whether Socrates was a real person, or a literary device
for Plato. The evidence for Socrates is stronger than that for Jesus
(THIS PAGE covers the comparison of evidence quite thoroughly). Briefly, there are three sources for Socrates that were written in
his lifetime, the earliest sources for Jesus were written over 50 years after
his death, and by non-witnesses. To compound the problem, many “official” books
of the Bible have been added to centuries after the earliest copies. In
other words, later authors forged parts of the books.
must not. When you hold a belief based on faith and not evidence, you are being
the very definition of irrational. Faith is incompatible with
reason. I will not go further into the matter here, as I have already
covered the material in my response to R.R. Reno’s view on critical thinking HERE and in my video on faith HERE.
Atheism. Studies show (here’s a few The Independent, Barna, Medical Daily) that the more educated
a person is, the more likely that they are an Atheist. This is also true not
only of populations within a country, but among nations themselves
(most educated countries, most Atheistic countries) Patton tries to counter these studies by saying that there
are many highly intelligent people that are Christian. This is
true. It is also true that there are those who are as dumb as a box of
rocks that are Atheist. But he misses the point. The point is that
highly educated people are also well versed in critical thinking.
Religions are often found wanting when challenged with the words “prove it”.
Saying that, there are still those that find comfort in the rituals of
religion, in the promise of seeing loved ones after death. No one faults
them for holding on to those desires. But when they try to justify their
beliefs through reason, even the most intelligent of people may buy into their
magician. For decades he wowed audiences with seemingly supernatural
powers until he became fed up with charlatans who were practicing the same
tricks to convince people that they had “real” supernatural powers. So,
Randi picked up where Harry Houdini left off, and began exposing these
charlatans for what they were (Randi’s expose of Uri Geller). Randi has offered a million dollar prize (JREF) to anyone who can perform supernatural feats under laboratory
conditions. So far, no one has been able to. There have been
scientists who have claimed to find evidence of ESP or telekinesis, but once
Randi’s people evaluated the studies, the ruse was exposed. The
scientists were not the ones trying to con Randi, but it was their subjects
that conned the scientists! Why? Magic tricks are not a part of
science curriculum. You see, nature does not lie, it does not try to con
us; only people do that. The scientists lacked the proper training in
mentalism and the art of illusion. So even a highly intelligent person, a
highly trained skeptic can fall for a ruse. That’s one of the dangers of
having an open mind: those well versed in grift can take advantage of
you. And sometimes we want to believe something so badly, that we twist
logic and reason any way we can in order to hold those beliefs.
evidence,the Atheist is committing intellectual suicide. On the surface, he is correct. However, what he fails to understand, is that
when Atheists are being “dismissive” of theistic claims of evidence rooted in
sacred texts, miracles, prophesy, etc. they are dismissive because such things
are conjecture not evidence. Evidence is corroborative, verifiable, and
falsifiable. That means that more than
one source can produce the results, that the results can be repeatable, and
that there are conditions that, if met, would render the evidence as
false. However, when backed into an
intellectual corner, the theist often pleads that if the Atheist only had faith
they would understand. The fallacy of
appeal to faith is the last refuge of the theist. To which, I will invoke Hitchens’ Razor in
the late, great Christopher Hitchens’ own words, “What can be asserted without
evidence can be dismissed without evidence.”
concede that point. Go back to the beginning of this post and click the
link to Patton’s article. Read the bit where he says there’s
evidence. Notice something missing? Yep, this supposed
evidence. Now naturally, his article is not about presenting such
evidence but he could have at least listed some types of evidence, or
arguments, or even a link or two to those arguments. Alas, he does
not. He asserts there is evidence for god, but fails to include that
of the evidence has been thoroughly debunked, most of which was so centuries
ago. Here’s the thing, if you make an argument for something and that
argument is shown to not only be invalid, but the counter argument is shown to
be valid, then your argument is no longer evidence. Since Patton has not listed is supposed evidence I
cannot disprove it. However, I have already addressed the most common
theistic apologetics here, which may include what Patton would
consider his “evidence”.
must be challenged. Personally, I care too much about people to allow
unfounded, untrue, and often malicious ideas contribute to their misery.
This is doubly true when their false ideas contribute to someone else’s
misery. So no. No concessions will be made by me or anyone else
that place their fellow humans above any notions of imaginary sky-daddies.
silly. Then, the more I thought about it, the more I realized that Patton,
and quite possibly many of his like-minded cohorts are actually scared of the Flying Spaghetti Monster
(FSM). For those who have not heard of the FSM, he is from a children’s
book that is written much like the bible, about a deity, the FSM and the
religion that follows him. It’s silly. It’s cute. It is an illustration
on how silly the claims of other religions are when viewed outside that
religion. And what I think gets the goat of most theists is when a
non-believer in their brand of woo-woo points out that their little religion
looks just as ridiculous to the non-believer as the FSM does to them. No
one that follows the FSM think it’s real, it is just fun make believe, but the
theists are taking it seriously!
seriously when he tries to get philosophical to counter FSM claims. He
claims to be able to invalidate (remember, he is trying to invalidate something
that the fans of it say is fiction) the FSM through a two-step process. First, Patton
brings up the specter of the necessary being. It is a tired philosophical concept that it is
necessary that some being caused the very first event in cosmic history; an
uncaused cause if you will. This idea is found in the Teleological and
Cosmological arguments which are addressed, again, in my God Arguments page.
that Patton is still stuck on the first part, he says that there is no historical basis for it. ALL religions are
stuck on this step. The reason that anthropologists, sociologists etc.
are the least religious scholars is that these fields have not
only studied various religions, but have even seen the historical record and archaeological evidence of when religions and deities were invented, borrowed and developed.
ad hominem on Atheists by claiming that those Atheists who publicly debate are
similar to used-car salesmen: they dress nice, so they MUST be hiding
something! He then says that we Atheists must admit that our position is
a “weak” one (implying his is the “strong” one.) The basis for his assertion is
that Atheism cannot explain any basis for morals or existence itself.
the lack of belief in any gods. That is all. Atheism doesn’t HAVE
to explain anything because it is a baseline position. But, since Patton
brought it up, are there any secular theories to morals or existence? Why, yes. Yes there
is. There is a whole field of philosophical study (it’s called ethics, by
the way) that deals with morality. As to why there’s something instead of
nothing, I say, why not? Assuredly, science is working on it, and there
are some hypotheses as to why we have a universe. But it is a complex
matter and one that cannot accept the lazy-man’s answer: god did it. You
see, if you want to posit an idea as to why there is something rather than
nothing, you must prove it. Claiming one deity or another and resting on
it is intellectually lazy, and fraudulent.
Patton claims that Atheists are necessarily closed-minded. He pleads that
Atheists cannot claim to be open-minded because Atheists reject religion. When
I first read this, I thought, “Oh, he just doesn’t understand what open-minded
means.” Now that I’ve read it again, I’m not only sure he doesn’t, but I’m also
sure he doesn’t fully understand his own argument. Patton claims that Atheism
is so married to naturalism that Atheists cannot think outside the box. Again,
Atheism is only a lack of belief in gods. Most Buddhists are Atheists, as are
Jains. And yet, they do believe in non-naturalistic things. Again Patton’s
attack on Atheism is really an attack on secular skepticism (Skepticism with a
capital ‘S’ as it is a sort of movement that fits exactly what Patton is raging
against). When a Skeptic says to be open minded, they mean to not clutch your
beliefs so tightly that when faced with evidence that nullifies those beliefs,
you are incapable of revising your beliefs. The Skeptic uses reason and
empirical evidence as their basis for knowledge because it fucking works!
Language and math operate on the same logic, in fact the field of Propositional
Calculus does just that: it turns logical, linguistic statement into math so
computers can compute.
faith at the table of reason. Faith is accepting something to be true
(believing in it) without evidence. This is the antithesis of reason!
Now, the most popular theistic dodge to this criticism is that theists do
not base their faith on a lack of evidence, but rather on evidence, such as
personal revelation, miracles and fulfilled prophecies. I’ve already
tackled why these do not count as evidence in my god videos. The video on
prophecy and miracles is here, which leaves personal revelation.
It is not evidence. Accepting something on someone’s say so is not good
evidence of any sort. It is not that they are lying, though that may be
the case, but it is well known that eye-witness accounts are not reliable (even
for cops). Not to mention that while an eye witness account
of an event will more than likely have corroborating physical evidence, a
report of someone’s feelings on
something, or the voices in their head are most likely attributable to various
psychological states, not on the super natural. One last thing that gets
the preachers, used-car salesmen, kings, and other con-men upset with the
rejection of faith as evidence, is that THEY have to prove what they say too.
They do not have the authority to dictate “truth.” Take
that power away, and they have none. No religion has ever been able to
withstand the words, ‘prove it.’ What Patton cannot comes to grips with,
is that neither can he prove it.
an amphiboly by interchanging two separate meanings of the word
faith to show that their religion is “true.” They will mix the
meaning, ‘belief without evidence’ with other meanings of the word, be it a
synonym for some other emotional state like hope or ‘confidence’, or they will
use the synonym ‘religion’. I won’t go into it more here, I’ve already covered
faith in the following video, here, and argued against R.R. Reno’s
idea of using faith instead of reason in education here.
why Patton says this, is because he is convinced that Atheism is more than
that. He makes a claim that the reason why Atheists say that Atheism is a
lack of belief is because Atheists are trying to avoid the burden of
proof. There are a couple of things going on here. The first, is
that the reason why no one claims to be a-leprechuanist or a-Thorist is because
leprechaun and Thor are not Greek words (though Atheism includes a-Thorists).
Secondly, and again, Patton is nor raging against Atheism, but
Skepticism. Now, it is true that many Atheists in the US come to it
through Skepticism, but they are not the same thing. In fact, the man who
argued for modern skepticism was very devout indeed! Rene Descartes
formulated the principal of doubt as a starting point to figure out how we
could ever know anything.
preconceptions, and it the new did not fit, it was often rejected.
Copernicus had this problem, as did Galileo, with the authorities at that
time. Descartes said that to gain new knowledge it is best to begin from
a state of utter doubt, and let the evidence guide our conclusions. This
one principle has guided scientific inquiry for the past 400 years. This
one principle is the foundation that led to discoveries that feed the world,
that prevent and cure disease that got us to the moon. Now, as devout as
Descartes was, he began from is principle of doubt and arrived at a
“necessary, and good god” conclusion. But, that was due to
certain assumptions that can easily be argued away today.
and that Atheism is a part of it. He is basically making a Red HerringFallacy, by misusing the term Atheism to distract what he is
really against: world views other than his own. While he is correct that
Atheism is a part of an Atheist’s world view, Atheism itself is not a world
view. Patton proposes the following questions are necessary to answer to
have a world view:
• Is there such a thing as morality?
• Does man have free will?
• Why is there something rather than nothing?
• What is the basis for rationality?
meaning that the concept of Atheism does not answer the question.
is tailing against modern philosophy and science, which are beginning to answer
those questions in a manner that is more than the authoritarian mandates of
some questions then (note: these questions are far from exhaustive):
questions: What is morality? Is it universal or not? Can
morality be determined either philosophically or through the eyes of science,
say evolution, or sociology?
will?” Is free will even possible? Then the Skeptic would
tackle the problem if man has it.
do we mean by nothing? Is nothing even possible? Does the original
question, itself, have any real meaning?
“What is logic?” What does it mean to know? How do we
know if we know? What is the best way to use knowledge to find new
knowledge? Can we use knowledge to find knowledge?
career in philosophy has been made just focusing on one set of questions
above. So, why not just use some sort of variation of “god did
it” To answer the above questions? Because then you would have to
prove two things: One that there is in fact a god (more specifically your god) and two, you would have to prove that
god did, in fact, do it. It is the same burden of proof that ANYONE has
when trying to answer the above questions. Do Atheists have the same
burden of proof to answer the above? Of course they do. But, Atheism does not, as it is a concept with a
singular meaning and it is a meaning that has nothing to do with explaining
anything other than a singular person’s acceptance of any gods.
above questions and people are relying less and less on religion for those
answers. Religion is losing its special status, its power, and the
shamans of the world’s religions are fighting to keep their power.
another ad hominem against Atheists.
But, he did offer to pray for us.
I think I can speak for many Atheists by saying, “keep praying. Want to try to convert us? Stay at home and
pray for us. Want to spread the word at
a school? Stay and home and pray that
your god will reveal himself. Is it the
second Tuesday in November? For the love
of democracy, stay at home and pray!”